NoFap Life After Flatline ( When Flatline Ends & libido Comes Back)
So you're trying to quit porn, huh?
And now you're in a flatline and wonder, what NoFap life after flatline is going to look like?
What happens after the flatline?
What do you do when libido comes back om NoFap?
Well, let's talk about it...
NoFap Life After Flatline
Scandinavian Bob here, hi!
If you are in the process of quitting porn, you're on a NoFap journey and you happen to be in a flaltine right now, what are you supposed to do after the flatline when you get your libido back.
Do you have a plan for that?
Or even if you’re not in a flatline right now, but you are doing what you call a 90 day NoFap challenge? Well, what should you do when you make it to 90? Then what? What’s your plan here? Have you even thought about it?
You have to have a plan for what to do after the flatline ends...
You have to know this, or you run the risk of failing witn NoFap forever and I’ll tell you why this is so important in a moment.
This is something NoFap youtubers never talk about, but as a rebooting coach and as someone who has been involved in the No porn / NoFap community for 12 years by now, I feel it’s my duty to inform you guys about this.
And so, we are going to take a look at a few examples here in just a second, but before we do, here comes something really important.
Your life - your rules...
You have probably heard me say the words “Your life, your rules” in my videos before, and now even more so those words are going to apply. Because it depends on what goals YOU have with your NoFap journey. You see, people do NoFap for all sorts of reasons, and on top of that, people even define NoFap differently.
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People define NoFap differently...
So, in order to make this clear, here’s how the founder of the NoFap forum, and actually the very founder of the word NoFap Alexander Rhodes, defines NoFap “To help people overcome porn addiction and other forms of compulsive sexual behavior”
And if you now go “That is not what NoFap means”...
Well perhaps not for you, but you can’t put it like that since we are now talking about a phrase that comes directly from the guy who came up with the word “NoFap” and created the forum.
That is my definition as well - to quit using porn
And just so you know, that is what I myself have always meant when I use the word NoFap in my videos unless I explicitly say otherwise.
You know, sometimes I also talk about retention or masturbation in and of itself, why? Well, because, again, people have different goals and people interpret the word NoFap differently and I talk about all of those goals, from time to time.
Ok, so with that said, now you also understand that you will have to have an open mind if you are going to watch this video, because some of the things I say may fly directly in the face of your goals or even your views.
No matter how you define NoFap you need to know what to do after libido returns...
But remember, even though people have different goals with NoFap, EVERYONE absolutely must know what they are going to do once they get out of the flatline, or once they hit their 90 day goal.
Ok, so if you look at the screen right here.
Let’s say that you are one of the guys who are doing NoFap both for quitting porn and for semen retention.
Chances are you have developed addiction related brain changes....
Well, since you guys also quit the porn, chances are you had some form of addiction related brain changes to it, and if so you descended into a flatline.
Which, if you didn’t know, only happens to people whose brains have been altered by online porn. A flatline does not happen just by abstinence itself, if there’s no history of porn use in the guy's life.
So the flatline is a new phenomenon.
The flatline didn't even exist before there were any internet....
The flatline didn’t even exist before the internet was invented.
Anyway, ok, so let’s say you have embarked on your journey, and in your second week after quitting you descended into a deep flatline and now your libido is completely dead.
Ok, but what are you going to do when you get out of the flatline?
What’s your plan?
Are you going to use your libido for something?
Are you going to use your libido for something?
Let’s say for example that you have decided that you want to have a period in your life where you just keep working on yourself and your goals, you do not have a wife and you don’t even want to date.
Well, that’s fine, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that, again your life, your rules.
Semen retention and no dating...
But if that’s the case then you better make damn sure you do indeed have a lot of goals to work on and that you learn how to channel that energy because if you think you can just hang around, work in a job you don’t like, and play videos games when you get home and not use your libido on anything you are sorely mistaken.
Why?
Well just think about it.
If you're not going to use your libido - you need to channel it...
Your sexual energy is incredibly powerful, and once you get out of your flatline, you better make sure you either channel it or use it somehow. Because you can’t suppress it.
That’s impossible.
It's impossible to suppress libido...
And IF you want to stay in this box, which again is totally fine if that’s what you want to, you don’t want to date and you don’t want to ejaculate then you have to learn the art of transmuting that energy.
You will have to get good at...
- Meditation
- Exercise
- Deep breathing
- Focusing on your goals
- And on and on and on...
And so this is what I mean by, you have to know in advance what you’re going to do after the flatline ends.
What’s your plan?
Have you even thought about this?
Quitting porn and rebooting in order to get a healthier sexuality...
Okay, so let’s say your main goal is to reboot in order to overcome a porn addiction because you see how porn is causing negative effects in your life, maybe you even have PIED.
Ok, so if you’re in a flatline right now, without libido. What are you going to do once your libido comes roaring back and you once again have a strong sex drive?
Are you going to allow porn free masturbation or not?
Are you going to allow porn-free masturbation?
Now, here is where you guys have to be open minded because you have to understand that a porn addiction is not the same as addiction to masturbation.
Yes, some guys can also be addicted to masturbation in and of itself, and yes they overlap somewhat, but for more than 90% of the guys it is porn that is addictive, not fapping in and of itself.
Some former porn addicts can actually use porn-free masturbation without problem...
This means that out of those who are addicted to porn, yes, many of those guys feel like they also cut out masturbation from their lives for good. And if that’s what they want, that’s is totally fine.
100% okay. Obviously you don't NEED to masturbate if you don’t want to.
But many of them chose not to even after libido has returned...
BUT there are also going to be those who want to see if they can reintroduce porn-free masturbation in their lives after their reboot.
And guess what, absolutely, many people can do that without going back to porn. And if that’s what they want, that is also 100% fine.
We are all different...
This is where I myself see red on platforms like Twitter. I see some reboot coaches say things like, “If you keep masturbating, then you have not overcome your porn addiction.”
Because you can not make a blanket statement like that!
That is the case for some people, yes, but far from everyone.
Why?
Because porn addiction is porn addiction. It is not masturbation. They are two separate things.
Some guys have merged the two so hard that porn-free masturbation becomes almost impossible...
Now here’s the thing though, yes, there are some guys, especially those who started of very young, that simply can not separate those two.
Because masturbation and porn has become so intertwined in their brain, so if they try to masturbate without the porn, it reminds them of the porn so much that they will just start relapsing again.
It's a pretty complex thing...
So, as you can see, this is a pretty complex thing, which makes me see red here, and I have to say to anyone listening to this, if you are only capable of black and white thinking then you should not be a reboot coach because since we’re all so different, and on top of that have different goals, you have to be able to flexible in your approach.
Whatever your goal is, you need to know what to do after libido returns on your NoFap journey...
But my point with this video is, whatever your goal is with your journey you have to decide in ADVANCE what you are going to do when the flatline ends.
Because here’s the thing, let’s say you have been staying away from porn for 90 days AND you have also been staying away from masturbation to give your brain a complete rest from all things sexual in order to try to heal your brain faster.
A clear plan mean less risk of the brain tricking you...
Well, now you have gotten so used to not masturbating that once you reach 90 days, perhaps one evening you happen to do porn free masturbation out of horniness and, since you’ve been away from masturbation for so long now it FEELS like you relapsed even though you didn’t watch porn.
And because of this perhaps your former addict brain tricks you into going back to porn, because, you know you just relapsed anyway so might as well use porn too. And so now maybe you fap to porn a few times too, and before you know it you’re stuck in the grips of porn again.
Be careful fooling yourself...
That would be a huge mistake, because you set out to overcome your porn addiction.
Now, this was just an example, but these are things that can really happen and in this scenario you can clearly see how the lack of a plan on what you are going to do after your reboot can completely sabotage your efforts.
If you, on the other hand would have planned in advance that hey, once I have rebooted I am going to try to incorporate porn free masturbation into my life and see how that works for me, and you would have reminded yourself of that, then you would have reduced the chances of your addict brain tricking you into making that mistake.
But remember now you do not have to use porn free masturbation after your reboot. This was just an example.
What are you going to do if you start dating and it takes a long time to get a willing date?
Okay, so let’s say you want to start dating after you get your libido back.
And so you want to use your libido on real life people, again, that is totally fine, your life your rules, so that’s good, but what are you going to do if it takes a really long time before you get a date? Perhaps you get a lot of rejection, and suffer massive blue balls as a result?
Are you going to allow self stimulation?
Are you going to allow porn free masturbation as a release then?
If so, totally fine. If not, and you want to save yourself for the real life date, also fine.
But again, you need to decide in advance because if you remember only one thing from this video, make sure it’s the following words….
The more unclear your plan is going forward, the higher the chance of you messing everything up!
What about using porn in moderation?
And what about moderation?
And so now you say, wait a minute, where are you going with this Bob?
Well this may come as a shock to many of you, but I am actually not "anti-porn" and I am certainly not "ani-masturbation".
I am pro information!
After informed, people should be allowed to make up their own mind...
Meaning I feel it is my job to inform people about the negative effects of porn, and then they should then make up their own minds on what they want to do and how they want to live.
It’s the same as with alcohol.
Alcohol is a drug and we all know it’s bad for us, but I still think people should be able to drink it IF they choose to do so, just as long as they are aware of the potential negative effects they can run into.
So, let’s say you’re one of those guys who have been using so much porn that you are so desensitized to it and can no longer get any pleasure from it.
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Rebooting to once again get pleasure from porn?
So you decided to go on NoFap and reboot in order to reset your dopamine system and now you’re playing around with the thought of trying to use porn in moderation after your reboot is done so you can once again get some pleasure out of it?
Well, this one has to be the most controversial of them all and many of you are going to be shocked at what I’m about to say, but here’s the thing, I stand behind all of my words. And when “I say, your life, your rules”. I actually mean that.
Your life - Your rules...
If you want to try to use porn in moderation, then hey, as long as you are aware of the dangers you go right ahead. Your life and your rules. Some of my friends still watch porn and I do not judge them.
That doesn’t mean I recommend it. Because here’s the thing, most people who have been addicted can not use in moderation again, because if they try they will quickly just start escalating again, which is the case for me.
So, no I no longer watch porn myself, not even in moderation, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to lie to you and say that’s the case for everyone. Some people can actually learn how to keep it at moderation, but here’s the deal, they are definitely in the minority.
I can't say I recommend it, though...
So, again, I can't say I recommend it. But if you want to give it a try in order to find out in what category you belong, hey, go right ahead. I do not judge.
And if you don’t believe that there are some people who actually can do this, then fair enough that’s fine, but you could then for example listen to the book Dopamine Nation written by the addiction expert Anna Lemke, who says the exact same thing; that some people can learn how to use again in moderation.
Let's not become dogmatic and live in a bubble...
You see, I hate ideologies and I often have a big problem with dogmatic people or people who say things like, “That’s the way it was for me so therefore it has to be the exact same for you”.
No, ehh…not only do I think that’s appalling it’s also wrong.
So remember this my friends, whatever goal YOU have with NoFap, that’s the right one for you and do not let anyone else tell you otherwise, but you have to plan your journey ahead of time and decide what you are going to do in advance in order to significantly increase your chance of success.
Whatever goal you have - it's the right one for you....
Alright, and so if you need my help with rebooting in any way shape or form, maybe it’s with relapsing, or maybe you are stuck in a never-ending flatline or you are struggling with PIED and need some tips on how to best move forward you can always reach out to me for a coaching call by using the link right here.
And also speaking of being pro information, I think it would be good for everyone see a 4 part video series I made a while back where I speak on exactly what happens inside your brain if you watch a lot of porn.
So if you haven’t already, please go ahead and watch that now because educating yourself about this will be of immense value as you plan plan and keep on your journey.
Thanks for reading,
-Scandinavian Bob
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